Local Catholics react with surprise as Trump and Pope Leo trade public criticism

PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- Catholics at the Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul said they were taken aback Tuesday by escalating public criticism between President Trump and Pope Leo XIV, describing the exchange as unexpected and troubling.

"I never expected anything like that," one parishioner said.

Another added, "No one expects that."

The reaction comes after Trump issued sharp remarks about the first American-born pope, who has spoken out against the war with Iran and condemned the president's threat to wipe out a whole civilization as unacceptable.

"I will continue to speak out loudly against war, looking to promote peace. Promoting dialogue and multilateral relationship among the states," Pope Leo XIV said.

Trump responded by criticizing the pontiff's stance on Iran. "He was very much against what I'm doing with regard to Iran, and you cannot have a nuclear Iran," the president said. On social media, he also labeled the pope "weak on crime" and "terrible on foreign policy."

For many Catholics, the exchange has been difficult to watch.

"It's more than a shame. It's horrible. It's disrespectful," said Denise Trujillo of Denver.

Philadelphia Archbishop Nelson Perez released a statement defending the pope, who is a graduate of Villanova University. He said the pontiff and his message "deserve respect and admiration," adding that "the church of Philadelphia stands by the Holy Father as he continues to call and pray for world peace."

The president is also facing questions about an AI-generated image he posted - and later deleted - depicting himself as a Jesus-like figure. Trump said the media misinterpreted the image.

"I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor," he said.

Pope Leo XIV said he does not fear the Trump administration and does not intend to escalate the dispute.

"I do not look at my role as being political, a politician. I don't want to get into a debate with him," he said.

Some Catholics said they never imagined seeing such a confrontation.

"I think it's very, very sad. I really do. I think the church should be left out of politics," said Kathy Keogh of Center City.

Trump has faced calls from some of his allies to apologize to the pope, but he has said he has no plans to do so.